Reader Input: Picking A CMS – Part 1

In The Series

Define The Problem

In the past, I’ve done some freelance Web Development and Web Design for different clients. One question I’ve always had to ask myself is:

How will the user be updating this website?

That question is usually preempted by a question to the client:

Do you have any HTML experience?

I can count (on one hand) the number of times that I’ve heard a yes to this question. To be quite honest, I don’t even know why I ask it anymore. Hardly any of my clients  ever had HTML experience and even if they did, I doubt they’d want to go through the hassle. So this poses the very interesting question How do you pick a CMS (content management system) for a web project?

What Not To Do – Pure HTML is wrong for many reasons

XHTMLOver the years, I’ve had much experience in this area (what not to do). Gone are the days when people simply wanted a web presence. Those days, things were simple. You fire up your copy of Frontpage (oh how we’ve learned from then) and designed a website for a client and stick it onto an FTP server, and viola; you’re done. Worst case scenario, they call you up seven (7) months later and say they’ve changed their phone number and need you to make an update.

That might have been fine back then, but right now clients expect a lot more for their money. In this day and age when everyone is worried about SEO ranking and the phrase Content Is King has been coined, no one wants to have to call you up (and God forbid; pay you) to make regular updates to their website. It is expected that you provide some sort method of updating their site.

With that said, providing a purely HTML solution is not user friendly and it can be down right dangerous. Do you really want to give your users full access to the HTML files that comprise the website? What if they break something in the layout while editing in Microsoft Word, ugh!. Who would be to blame? You would.

In the past I’ve guarded against this by using the PHP include strategy. The website would be primarily PHP with a folder called “content” sitting there with various HTML files. From there, I would pull any dynamic content that would be needed for the site: Page titles, tag lines, content blocks, etc, using standard PHP includes. This way my layout would stay (relatively) intact and the user would have access to change what they were allowed to change. The problem with this method is that they required some sort of HTML knowledge to modify the content files. They also required knowledge of FTP software and servers. Not to mention, that adding a pages or sections still needed heavy interaction from myself. Needless to say, I’ve grown from then.

Joomla! – It looked like a good idea at first

joomlaEarly in my college days, I stumbled across Mambo and subsequently Joomla!, it’s current fork. It did so much for you, it had to be good, right? After installing Joomla for a client, I realized what the problem was. It just did too much. There were too many configurations, and simple things were just too hard. Also, last I remember, one of the main navigational structures was generated using and ugly and rigid table structure. Yes, I know it’s been changed by now, but that was part of my initial frustration.

It just felt too heavy for a normal website. No matter how much I restricted the user (by groups – editors as opposed to admins I think) I still got complaints about how complicated the backend interface it was. Added to that fact, the templates (and I stress) at that time were very cookie-cutter. It got to the point where I could eyeball a website built in Joomla.

Since then (over 3 years ago) I haven’t given Joomla a second look. It’s just one of those things that rubs you the wrong way once, and you never look back. Judging by the version numbers, I’m forced to assume that not much has changed. But that’s just an ignorant assumption with no basis, so please don’t hold it against me.

More To Come

I really had no idea this was going to be as long as it turned out. But sometimes I start ranting and never end. Hense, there shall be a part two where I talk about my dive into WordPress.

All user input is encouranged; ThanX

Comments

  1. Funnily enough, I had exactly the same experience with a client. They stuck with the site for two months before cutting their losses and going with another web-development firm.

    Serious fail on my end.

  2. Joomla does way too much, amen to that

  3. Looking forward to the next part on this topic. Btw, You might want to check out FrogCMS. Very lean and straightforward CMS.

    Our Switch from WordPress to FrogCMS

    • After looking at the comments on your site, I already have a turn off. Editing templates in the web interface? Seems a bit backwards to me. It’s just not how I work. I know there are workarounds, but that’s always the problem. Nothing gives you exactly what you need one always needs a work around.

      But FYI, I was going to mention Frog in part 3. I think I just need to take one day and install ALL of these CMS’s and see which gives me what I want with the least muss and fuss.

  4. CMS made simple, I tried Joomla, PHPcms, others all to complicated, heavy as an anvil,very user unfriendly . CMS made simple , just like the title says

  5. Joomla has changed over years a lot. The interfaces are much cleaner and the user gets the option of choosing what they want. Of course a custom made CMS is much easy but if customization can save a lot of development costs, Joomla and Drupal are best of the breed. We ourselves get a lot of projects where the clients themselves mention that they wish to get their site developed in Joomla.

  6. Most of my clients, I create a custom CMS.. that does EXACTLY what they need, nothing more, nothing less. You can go with a pre built CMS like Joomla (does too much), or WordPress (not really a CMS), Drupal (more advanced), etc… but in the end, any OTS CMS is going to be very general and made for a general audience, which means you will get a lot of things you don’t need.

    One of the 3rd party CMS’s that I have enjoyed using for very basic sites (text/html/image updates) is cushycms They are very basic, very easy to use, and lets you give your clients specific areas they can edit, and even the format they can edit it in.

  7. Most of my clients, I create a custom CMS.. that does EXACTLY what they need, nothing more, nothing less. You can go with a pre built CMS like Joomla (does too much), or WordPress (not really a CMS), Drupal (more advanced), etc… but in the end, any OTS CMS is going to be very general and made for a general audience, which means you will get a lot of things you don’t need. One of the 3rd party CMS’s that I have enjoyed using for very basic sites (text/html/image updates) is cushycms They are very basic, very easy to use, and lets you give your clients specific areas they can edit, and even the format they can edit it in.